Comments on: Did police kill G20 protester in London? (Updated: not looking good) http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/ Government web design, open data, transparency, etc. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:21:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Paul http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-2696 Paul Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:12:28 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-2696 Disgraceful how the police get away with murder. This is the kind of thing you'd expect in some 3rd World Country, a level that the UK seems to now be among. Maybe one day the UK can get it's freedom. Disgraceful how the police get away with murder. This is the kind of thing you’d expect in some 3rd World Country, a level that the UK seems to now be among.
Maybe one day the UK can get it’s freedom.

]]> By: Stephen http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-1396 Stephen Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:30:21 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-1396 I'm always surprised by the remarkable attitude people show this. I can't think any other situation where a video of someone being knocked to the ground and later dying gets on national TV where the question wasn't "what did you push him for" or perhaps "were there any mitigating circumstances surrounding your push" but "what was the victim doing there in the first place?" I think the only other place you'd see it is where you have people who think that rape victims were "asking for it". I’m always surprised by the remarkable attitude people show this. I can’t think any other situation where a video of someone being knocked to the ground and later dying gets on national TV where the question wasn’t “what did you push him for” or perhaps “were there any mitigating circumstances surrounding your push” but “what was the victim doing there in the first place?”

I think the only other place you’d see it is where you have people who think that rape victims were “asking for it”.

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]]> By: Mercurius http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-405 Mercurius Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:28:42 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-405 Interesting post! If you compare the photos you've posted with the ones in my post you'll see that in your first one he's walking past the spot where he was later pushed to the ground. Although the actions of the police officer in question appear inexcusable it doesn't appear that he was "just walking home from work" either but I haven't heard any other plausible explanation of what he might have been doing in the area. From being at the protests I know that if you walked 100 yards in any direction you could get around the trouble spots to wherever you wanted to go but he doesn't appear to have done that and stayed in the area for whatever reason. http://www.thecity.co.uk/blog/ian-tomlinson-enquiry-police/ Interesting post! If you compare the photos you’ve posted with the ones in my post you’ll see that in your first one he’s walking past the spot where he was later pushed to the ground. Although the actions of the police officer in question appear inexcusable it doesn’t appear that he was “just walking home from work” either but I haven’t heard any other plausible explanation of what he might have been doing in the area.
From being at the protests I know that if you walked 100 yards in any direction you could get around the trouble spots to wherever you wanted to go but he doesn’t appear to have done that and stayed in the area for whatever reason.
http://www.thecity.co.uk/blog/ian-tomlinson-enquiry-police/

]]> By: Adrian Short http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-391 Adrian Short Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:44:03 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-391 The Guardian have just published a video showing a police officer assaulting Mr Tomlinson from behind and pushing him to the ground moments before he died. A member of the public comes to his assistance while several police officers stand and watch. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/07/video-g20-police-assault The Guardian have just published a video showing a police officer assaulting Mr Tomlinson from behind and pushing him to the ground moments before he died.

A member of the public comes to his assistance while several police officers stand and watch.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/07/video-g20-police-assault

]]> By: Adrian Short http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-385 Adrian Short Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:45:00 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-385 Police have named the man who died as 47-year-old Ian Tomlinson, who lived and worked locally. He was on his way home from work when he was caught in the police cordon. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/02/g20-summit-protester-death It is unclear whether he had consciously joined the protest or was simply passing through. The suspected cause of death is a heart attack. It remains unclear whether or to what extent the actions of the police caused or aggravated his condition or impeded prompt treatment, and whether or to what extent the actions of the protesters did likewise. Various eyewitness reports say that Mr Tomlinson was first helped by protesters, then by the police. It is not at all clear that reports of a small number of missiles thrown by some protesters are accurate, or if so, were a significant factor in the outcome of the matter. Police have named the man who died as 47-year-old Ian Tomlinson, who lived and worked locally. He was on his way home from work when he was caught in the police cordon.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/02/g20-summit-protester-death

It is unclear whether he had consciously joined the protest or was simply passing through.

The suspected cause of death is a heart attack.

It remains unclear whether or to what extent the actions of the police caused or aggravated his condition or impeded prompt treatment, and whether or to what extent the actions of the protesters did likewise. Various eyewitness reports say that Mr Tomlinson was first helped by protesters, then by the police. It is not at all clear that reports of a small number of missiles thrown by some protesters are accurate, or if so, were a significant factor in the outcome of the matter.

]]> By: Adrian Short http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-384 Adrian Short Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:59:32 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-384 BBC News report now implying that police allege protesters may have been responsible for the man's death: "Police said the man, thought to be in his 40s, died on Wednesday evening after bottles were thrown at him and he collapsed." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7978105.stm BBC News report now implying that police allege protesters may have been responsible for the man’s death:

“Police said the man, thought to be in his 40s, died on Wednesday evening after bottles were thrown at him and he collapsed.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7978105.stm

]]> By: Adrian Short http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-383 Adrian Short Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:08:57 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-383 The police's allegation is clearly inflammatory. It may be true but it's extremely irresponsible to report it without corroboration in an ongoing tense protest situation. There must have been dozens of witnesses, most probably with photos and videos. Can't that aspect of the story wait until the potential to cause harm passes or the truth is better known? The police’s allegation is clearly inflammatory. It may be true but it’s extremely irresponsible to report it without corroboration in an ongoing tense protest situation. There must have been dozens of witnesses, most probably with photos and videos. Can’t that aspect of the story wait until the potential to cause harm passes or the truth is better known?

]]> By: Alix http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2009/04/02/did-police-kill-g20-protester-in-london/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Alix Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:02:24 +0000 http://adrianshort.co.uk/?p=370#comment-382 I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I hope. But we do need to keep prodding at this incident. See my note on tweets from a probable eyewitness who says nothing was thrown by crowd: http://www.libdemvoice.org/wild-rumour-and-gossip-from-the-streets-of-london-13151.html I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I hope. But we do need to keep prodding at this incident. See my note on tweets from a probable eyewitness who says nothing was thrown by crowd:

http://www.libdemvoice.org/wild-rumour-and-gossip-from-the-streets-of-london-13151.html

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