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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-3432</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the good news is that Mayflower Park is now open to everyone. This is largely due to the fact we have a very good MP.

The arguments for its closure have been a scam from day one and merely an attempt to stop people from the housing estate from using a public park (Metropolitan Open Land).

In the meantime, parents swapped primary schools because of the great barrier and some bought cars just to get their children to school. The journey to Green Lane primary for the housing association residents is now a five-minute walk through parkland. Hurray.

As for the curfew for the housing association residents, if it still exists, I don&#039;t think it has any force in law. If Thames Valley Housing/St James&#039;s Homes (developers) were to take the residents to court then they&#039;d lose because of social discrimination. A judge would rule the curfew unlawful - or should.

The private residents have tennis courts on the Hamptons. Why? There are already tennis courts close by. I spoke to one boy on the housing estate: he said he wasn&#039;t allowed to play tennis with a boy on the private side because he was from the housing estate. I have never seen the tennis courts in use and believe the gym on the private side closed due to the cost of upkeep.

Yes, I&#039;m sure people on the estate misbehave but people do everywhere. The people I have sympathy with are those who bought houses in the area before the Hamptons. Living close to a disused sewage works is arguably better: no traffic.

I have no sympathy for those who bought houses on the Hamptons (private side) because they should have been full in the knowledge that they were funding a public park and living close to a relatively large housing estate.

Anyway, there has been progress. Parents no longer have to use a grotty, previously disused, unlit back alley (unsuitable for pushchairs) to get their children to school. At one point the developers installed a padlocked, metal gate down this alley (a public footpath) in order to prevent access to the park. They said this was in collaboration with the police. The police cannot close a public right of way. Even in the event of a crime scene, they&#039;d have to make alternative provision.

Sutton council are just as bad. They recently instructed St James&#039;s Homes to do some repair work at another boundary point. They gave them a start date (May 2oth)but not a completion date. So far a small hole has been dug! The work will never get done.

I believe a similar development has been built in Kew - fancy facilities but only for the private residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the good news is that Mayflower Park is now open to everyone. This is largely due to the fact we have a very good MP.</p>
<p>The arguments for its closure have been a scam from day one and merely an attempt to stop people from the housing estate from using a public park (Metropolitan Open Land).</p>
<p>In the meantime, parents swapped primary schools because of the great barrier and some bought cars just to get their children to school. The journey to Green Lane primary for the housing association residents is now a five-minute walk through parkland. Hurray.</p>
<p>As for the curfew for the housing association residents, if it still exists, I don&#8217;t think it has any force in law. If Thames Valley Housing/St James&#8217;s Homes (developers) were to take the residents to court then they&#8217;d lose because of social discrimination. A judge would rule the curfew unlawful &#8211; or should.</p>
<p>The private residents have tennis courts on the Hamptons. Why? There are already tennis courts close by. I spoke to one boy on the housing estate: he said he wasn&#8217;t allowed to play tennis with a boy on the private side because he was from the housing estate. I have never seen the tennis courts in use and believe the gym on the private side closed due to the cost of upkeep.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m sure people on the estate misbehave but people do everywhere. The people I have sympathy with are those who bought houses in the area before the Hamptons. Living close to a disused sewage works is arguably better: no traffic.</p>
<p>I have no sympathy for those who bought houses on the Hamptons (private side) because they should have been full in the knowledge that they were funding a public park and living close to a relatively large housing estate.</p>
<p>Anyway, there has been progress. Parents no longer have to use a grotty, previously disused, unlit back alley (unsuitable for pushchairs) to get their children to school. At one point the developers installed a padlocked, metal gate down this alley (a public footpath) in order to prevent access to the park. They said this was in collaboration with the police. The police cannot close a public right of way. Even in the event of a crime scene, they&#8217;d have to make alternative provision.</p>
<p>Sutton council are just as bad. They recently instructed St James&#8217;s Homes to do some repair work at another boundary point. They gave them a start date (May 2oth)but not a completion date. So far a small hole has been dug! The work will never get done.</p>
<p>I believe a similar development has been built in Kew &#8211; fancy facilities but only for the private residents.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-3426</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Ive come late to this post, but, as a tenant from the Hamptons Social Housing side, I have never seen any anti-social behavour from any of my neighbours but indeed from outsiders who chose to come into the Hamptons from as far as Tolworth as its quite attractive, I find the atmosphere and relationships between the soci housing and private sides of the hamptons very welcoming and have had various conversations with people all over the estate. 
I do feel however that the &#039;odd few&#039; private tenants do look down on us for living in social housing! We dont all come with ASBOs and think that violence and vandalism is acceptable. but its a nationwide problem thatI agree needs to be sorted but it isnt due to social housing. Blame the PC brigade for that, or those that are to idle to work and pay their way, Social and private homes included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Ive come late to this post, but, as a tenant from the Hamptons Social Housing side, I have never seen any anti-social behavour from any of my neighbours but indeed from outsiders who chose to come into the Hamptons from as far as Tolworth as its quite attractive, I find the atmosphere and relationships between the soci housing and private sides of the hamptons very welcoming and have had various conversations with people all over the estate.<br />
I do feel however that the &#8216;odd few&#8217; private tenants do look down on us for living in social housing! We dont all come with ASBOs and think that violence and vandalism is acceptable. but its a nationwide problem thatI agree needs to be sorted but it isnt due to social housing. Blame the PC brigade for that, or those that are to idle to work and pay their way, Social and private homes included.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the private side of the Hamptons have prevented a local children&#039;s group from using their &quot;community hall&quot;. The children&#039;s group is funded by Sutton council and its playgroups, etc are open to all.

I have mixed feelings towards the Hamptons. I haven&#039;t seen kids misbehaving but hear of mindless vandalism. But I don&#039;t have much sympathy for those on the private side: they knew they would be living close to a council estate. I feel more sympathy towards those who have been landed with an estate close by.

The park remains gated off, so only the people on the private side can use the public park. Those on the housing association side have a 30 minute walk to use a park on their doorstep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the private side of the Hamptons have prevented a local children&#8217;s group from using their &#8220;community hall&#8221;. The children&#8217;s group is funded by Sutton council and its playgroups, etc are open to all.</p>
<p>I have mixed feelings towards the Hamptons. I haven&#8217;t seen kids misbehaving but hear of mindless vandalism. But I don&#8217;t have much sympathy for those on the private side: they knew they would be living close to a council estate. I feel more sympathy towards those who have been landed with an estate close by.</p>
<p>The park remains gated off, so only the people on the private side can use the public park. Those on the housing association side have a 30 minute walk to use a park on their doorstep.</p>
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		<title>By: SL</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>SL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son and his wife are hoping to buy a flat in The Hamptons  - not due to be completed until 2011, big sell from the agents. Having read this trail of comments I&#039;m now really confused as to whether they should or should not go ahead. They love the look of the site/development, but is the greenery and vaguely New England tranquillity (plus gym) the reality? Is it a good place to live?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son and his wife are hoping to buy a flat in The Hamptons  &#8211; not due to be completed until 2011, big sell from the agents. Having read this trail of comments I&#8217;m now really confused as to whether they should or should not go ahead. They love the look of the site/development, but is the greenery and vaguely New England tranquillity (plus gym) the reality? Is it a good place to live?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A huge wall has been erected on the housing association side - so the children there can&#039;t even use the park. It was granted permission as a park for public use, not one only for the use of private residents.

St James Homes argue that the wall was erected because of construction vehicles/work. No work takes place at weekends, though the park remains shut off. The construction area is already fenced off.

A footpath nearby was closed - apparently in collaboration with the police - due to anti-social behaviour but was re-opened when the children at the housing association end could no longer walk to their primary school because of the wall. So it&#039;s OK to use the path when it suits St James Homes, of course.

Anyway, I believe the MP has taken up the matter of children being denied access to the park.

The wall is a further example of social engineering on the Hamptons. Yes, there are probably troublemakers on the estate but I don&#039;t see them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A huge wall has been erected on the housing association side &#8211; so the children there can&#8217;t even use the park. It was granted permission as a park for public use, not one only for the use of private residents.</p>
<p>St James Homes argue that the wall was erected because of construction vehicles/work. No work takes place at weekends, though the park remains shut off. The construction area is already fenced off.</p>
<p>A footpath nearby was closed &#8211; apparently in collaboration with the police &#8211; due to anti-social behaviour but was re-opened when the children at the housing association end could no longer walk to their primary school because of the wall. So it&#8217;s OK to use the path when it suits St James Homes, of course.</p>
<p>Anyway, I believe the MP has taken up the matter of children being denied access to the park.</p>
<p>The wall is a further example of social engineering on the Hamptons. Yes, there are probably troublemakers on the estate but I don&#8217;t see them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous P</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please this information about the Hamptons is really really scary. Are the kids from the council flats still behaving badly? We intend buying a property there soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please this information about the Hamptons is really really scary. Are the kids from the council flats still behaving badly? We intend buying a property there soon.</p>
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		<title>By: (New) East Manchester Resident</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>(New) East Manchester Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the UK has suffered from half-baked liberalism for almost 3 decades... we are seeing the fallout of Thatcher&#039;s &#039;collection of individuals&#039; mantra... nobody cares; there is absolute loss of power and authority; teenage single parents are the norm; hip-hop and video games are the religion of urban (black) youth; children no longer understand the relationship between action and consequence and parents have thrown in the towel!  Thatcher left a void that New Labour have filled with New Totalitarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the UK has suffered from half-baked liberalism for almost 3 decades&#8230; we are seeing the fallout of Thatcher&#8217;s &#8216;collection of individuals&#8217; mantra&#8230; nobody cares; there is absolute loss of power and authority; teenage single parents are the norm; hip-hop and video games are the religion of urban (black) youth; children no longer understand the relationship between action and consequence and parents have thrown in the towel!  Thatcher left a void that New Labour have filled with New Totalitarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: Resident of The Hamptons</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Resident of The Hamptons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 11:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian,

Since you wrote your article not much has changed at the Hamptons, the children from the Thames Valley Housing Association have continued to vandalise the Hamptons residents homes and cars, the only difference being, they are now starting as young as 10.

They are terrifying some of the residents, by throwing bricks through there windows, walking around in gangs (ranging from ages 10 to 15), on the complex carrying planks of woods, bricks, chains, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian,</p>
<p>Since you wrote your article not much has changed at the Hamptons, the children from the Thames Valley Housing Association have continued to vandalise the Hamptons residents homes and cars, the only difference being, they are now starting as young as 10.</p>
<p>They are terrifying some of the residents, by throwing bricks through there windows, walking around in gangs (ranging from ages 10 to 15), on the complex carrying planks of woods, bricks, chains, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Fen</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Fen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the area like with the newer little houses like at the end of Boscombe Road? I know there is an industrial centre at the back.  It seemed OK when I went past, is it rough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the area like with the newer little houses like at the end of Boscombe Road? I know there is an industrial centre at the back.  It seemed OK when I went past, is it rough?</p>
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		<title>By: Doris</title>
		<link>http://blog.adrianshort.co.uk/2008/06/19/the-stepford-wives-of-worcester-park/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Doris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately the council house side of the Hamptons is in a tucked-away area and small. It annoys me to see people in three-storey, brand new council houses who show no obvious signs of poverty - the 4x4s, for example. Council houses should be for those in need, if that makes sense.

I sometimes hear yelling at night from the Hamptons and see the bottles of booze discarded along Boscombe Road - the residential road leading to the Hamptons. Living in a private development where many don&#039;t drive, I did fear an influx of abandoned cars.

But the culprits of antisocial behaviour and parking cars on other&#039;s land/ using this cul de sac as a weekend dumping ground for industrial vehicles are the older people in their tatty, three/four-bed 1930s semis along Boscombe Road. 

They are not the most classy of people - many would have bought when the houses were very affordable. Some flogged their back gardens in the 80s, yet feel they have the right to claim them back years later. They lost their rear access in the 80s when they sold their land. But, no, they want it back. Up goes a gate, private parking is abused and cement mixers, etc dumped. Yes, on someone else&#039;s freehold property.

These are the people driving around in banged-out Astras, Cortinas, chucking fag ends over their fences, etc. They should stop looking down their noses at people with smaller houses/council houses. And is their behaviour - trespassing, for example - any better than the Hamptons residents&#039; shouting and chucking litter about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately the council house side of the Hamptons is in a tucked-away area and small. It annoys me to see people in three-storey, brand new council houses who show no obvious signs of poverty &#8211; the 4x4s, for example. Council houses should be for those in need, if that makes sense.</p>
<p>I sometimes hear yelling at night from the Hamptons and see the bottles of booze discarded along Boscombe Road &#8211; the residential road leading to the Hamptons. Living in a private development where many don&#8217;t drive, I did fear an influx of abandoned cars.</p>
<p>But the culprits of antisocial behaviour and parking cars on other&#8217;s land/ using this cul de sac as a weekend dumping ground for industrial vehicles are the older people in their tatty, three/four-bed 1930s semis along Boscombe Road. </p>
<p>They are not the most classy of people &#8211; many would have bought when the houses were very affordable. Some flogged their back gardens in the 80s, yet feel they have the right to claim them back years later. They lost their rear access in the 80s when they sold their land. But, no, they want it back. Up goes a gate, private parking is abused and cement mixers, etc dumped. Yes, on someone else&#8217;s freehold property.</p>
<p>These are the people driving around in banged-out Astras, Cortinas, chucking fag ends over their fences, etc. They should stop looking down their noses at people with smaller houses/council houses. And is their behaviour &#8211; trespassing, for example &#8211; any better than the Hamptons residents&#8217; shouting and chucking litter about?</p>
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